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Angels Women?  Part 2

Dan Baxley

Genesis 6

“…the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.”

How is it that so many teachers today want you to believe that angels "married" women of the flesh and having done so they had children – giant children (the Nephilim) – and this is why the Creator God destroyed the seuface of man's first world?  Well, from the slice of biblical verse quoted above, it can be seen where such a false doctrine can get a start, but how is it those claiming to be versed in the Bible teach such a twisted, perverted view of the this scripture?  Of course, to a novice, of a causual reader of the Bible this might appear to say just that, "sons of God took women for wives".  Why perfectly made angels (in appearance, and it all about appearance in this verse) would see women as "fair" (beautiful) is of rather peculiar, to start with.  That aside let's have a closer look at this false teachings.    

This, my friends is a doctrine of devils -- there, I said it and I mean it, there is no other answer for so many claiming to be biblical scholars to support, teach, this obviously false doctrine -- yes, even a "novice" with the simplist of research can uncover this doctrine of devils.  But, before I really get into this let us go to the verse they, these false teachers, use as the quote to settle their argument -- we'll just kick the leg right out from under then, right off at the start.  Believe me, it is easy to disprove what these deceived, blind, false teachers wish the body of the Messiah to believe.  Find the book of Jude in the New Testament and read it carefully.  We will be going at this false teaching in reverse using the Word of the Living God to shine the light of truth onto this dark teaching of men as inspired by the spirit of Satan .  And make no mistake, Satan is spirit and he has a spirit he can "impart" to others, knowingly or unknowingly they work under his spiritual influence (Eph 2:2).

What they are Teaching

Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

The false teachers try to tell you that the statement, “angels kept not their first estate”, is proof they departed the spirit world and took wives from among men.  What nonsense, this type of reasoning can come only from the demons themselves.  Reading the very next piece of this verse and it is made plain that it is not speaking of “demon angels” becoming flesh!  Read it again, “but left their own habitation”, and what do you suppose that “habitation” to be – the spirit world?  How is that possible?  It isn’t -- those of us that declare YaHshua as our Savior know this is not possible.  For starters they are “spirit” and cannot become flesh, why would they want to?  Becoming flesh would mean their end, as they would perish as all flesh must perish.  Again, we see our Savior as having come from our Father in heaven – delivering to us our deliverer  – in the flesh – He had to come by the woman.  Dare anyone suggest demon spirits had this power?  Some do try to suggest this blaspheme, but others see the problem of this approach and come up with another solution in an effort to keep this demon teaching.

Think about it – Angels becoming flesh and blood (“leaving their first estate”) in order to have sex with flesh and blood women.  All the while the True Son of the Living God to be delivered by “woman” by the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit.  It is by this our Savior was made above, better, more perfect than the Angels.  To say that these Angels, the rebellious angels, had this power is from the tongue of Satan himself.  (Matthew 22:30, Galatians 3:28, Hebrews 2:14, Hebrews 1:4, Hebrews 2:9).  Certainly there is ample proof, such as the story of Lot, demonstrating that angels can appear in human form.  To more accurate, however, we should understand that the angels were created before we, humans, were and that it is not the angels appearing in the flesh but becoming visible to our eyes, or, in the case of Lot and his family, to their eyes.  We appear in the flesh as they appear in spirit.  Read Hebrews 1:3 and see how He is the very image, in the flesh, of God the Father.  The pattern the Creator (Hebrews 1:2) used in making flesh and blood man is the pattern of our Heavenly Father but the exact pattern is that of our Savior YaHshua.  To attribute this creative power to angels is a great error.  The rebellious angels did not have sex with flesh and blood, they are neither male nor female, as we humans understand it.

The “estate” these angels abandoned had to have been a place -- a place in the spirit world created for their dominion -- for some reason  (like Satan’s influence of rebellion) they left their “appointed place”, their dwelling place, their “estate”, their home.  They did not take “wives” as the false teachers would imagine as we are told in Matthew 22:30 and Galatians 3:28.  Where do they get this demonic teaching?  Dr Schofield of the Schofield Bible Notes and the Schofield Bible is one of the earliest Christian teachers of this false idea, but the teaching itself is thousands of years old.  As noted in Part 1 of this study the Jewish scholars have been teaching this for some time and it is likely some of the Christian community has taken this teaching as their own.  It is not hard to find pagan teachings on this same subject -- “gods” coming down to live among men and to have sexual intercourse with flesh and blood women.  The legendary Hercules is supposed to be the product of such an illicit union.  Spirits may be able to possess but not to become flesh, and many teachers of this doctrine do understand this problem but still seek to go around this problem by saying that the demon angels possessed the male gender of the human race and then using their host to impregnate women.  How ridiculous can you get?  These teachers will tell Christians this made up tale, with a straight face not a blush in sight  -- this ridiculous, stupid, pagan idea – an idea inspired by Satan.

The “estate” the rebel angels abandoned was a ”habitat”  -- a place, a position – given to them to rule over, but apparently it was not considered good enough.  Under the influence of Satan they sought to take the Kingdom by force.  You see angels were given the same freedom of thought that we enjoy.  They are not robots going through eternity without choice, unthinking beings.  No, they are as free as we are and have a choice of loving or hating, of doing our heavenly Father’s will and performing His purpose or not.   Satan and a few others of the spiritual world choose to do things their own way.  Some how, under self-imposed deception, they thought a thing so evil as to replace their Maker. 

I have an opinion, a guess, if you will, about what may have happened to inspire a full third of the created angels to go against their creator joining forces with Satan in an attempted over throw.  It goes something like this:  Satan saw how perfect he had been created and began to think himself equal with his creator and when the full plan of our Heavenly Father was revealed Satan saw that he was not going to be the chief of creation but the our Father had a plan to bring about a created being closer to Himself than any of the angels.  That being would be called humans made of flesh and blood with the potential of becoming sons and daughters of the Sustainer of all life.  Satan’s rebellion would be to break away from being a servant to the children of the Living God and in this he found other angels in agreement.  They were created for a purpose they did not want to fulfill.  (Hebrews 1:14)

Spirit beings, as such, were created eternal, not made of flesh and blood, not made of physical matter as we know it.  It is this world we, as humans, seek to join and it can be seen why we are tested in the flesh.  The solution to “rebellion” is to eliminate it before it can become eternal.  This is why we find statements in the Bible like, “…the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD(YHWH) of hosts” (Malachi 4:11). The future of rebellious flesh shall become ash, as nothing when the Earth is purified by fire (2 Peter 3:7) only the righteous of the Living God will survive.  Still, no one is deserving of escaping this coming “purification” and this is why our Loving Father in Heaven has sent to us His Son.  It is by His “righteousness” and His blood shed for us that we willingly accepting this way to eternal life, that we are able to survive this coming time – by the power of His Creating Spirit, YaHshua.

Certainly there is the “resurrection” of the Saints but the Saints of YH, believers in the Messiah, YaHshua, are joined with Him as “first fruits”.  The “fire to come” is the final word in the plan of salvation taking us into eternal life. This is why we see that it is a special blessing to those that are fortunate enough to be in the FIRST resurrection.

But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.  Revelation 20:5-6

Notice the mention of a “second death” and the “first resurrection”.  The second death means there is a first death and that is from “flesh” to “spirit” – the flesh must die – there is no passing from flesh to spirit, nor spirit to flesh – only the Messiah has done such a thing.  This should be ample proof that the spirit beings of the “rebellion” were not coming to earth and taking wives.  This is a lie accepted by some and in this have unwittingly given the demons credit for a power they do not possess.  

And why would spirits of any kind want to inhabit flesh and blood?  They know the written word as well as anyone and it is plain to them they are bound in “chains of darkness”.  The last thing a demon would want is to become “flesh”.

Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 1 Corinthians 15:50

We seek to become part to the spirit world no one ever sought to join the world of the flesh.  Understanding this one is able to see the true sacrifice our Savior made in leaving the world of eternal life becoming part of the corruptible world of the flesh and even then He knew He must die but having total faith in the Father to raise Him up and to not see corruption – HalleluYaH.  It is a lie to suggest any spirit being ever had this power, this ability to move from spirit to flesh.  Imagine if you can, our Savior taking counsel with our Heavenly Father and willingly accepting this mission – a mission to become flesh, giving up His life of eternity for the lowly form of physical man.  See how it had to be done, through birth into the flesh.  No rebel angel has ever done such a thing.

The final word, however, comes from the Messiah:

For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. Matthew 22:30

The key phrase here is, “… but as the angels of God in heaven.”  What can you surmise from this?  Angels do not marry and with this understanding we know the angels of God – the sons of God – were not taking wives.  So, just who were these “sons of God” referred to in Genesis 6?  First, they were not “angels” (can’t say that enough) and with this understood we know they must have been of another source.  We see throughout the Old Testament and the New Testament references made to any that are true believers.  If Christians think of themselves as “children of God” what would that make them?  Right -- sons and daughters of the Living God.  If we be sons then whom do you suppose the “sons” were of old?  Yes – flesh and blood individuals that were followers of YHWH.

There is another possibility, however, and I mention it here as only a possibility.  The sons of God are actually sons of Adam.  Adam is seen in ancient writings among the Canaanite population as being the father of mankind and known among them as the god EL, a slothful god given to drink.  His, Adam’s, sons coming down from on high (Eden) and mixing among men (humans outside of Eden).  It has occurred to me that while YHWH created Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden there may have been another creation of humanity apart from Adam and Eve outside the garden.  This may well have been the people Cain feared when he is driven from the protection of the garden.  It would explain a lot if this is the case and I see no biblical objection.  And I am not to first to make this observation but suggesting a creation prior to Genesis 2 is a real tail twister for some clinging to the “one creation” and only one creation” concept. 

Harper’s Bible Dictionary,252, gives a bit of history surrounding the God known as El, later as Elohim -- In Ugaritic Literature: “…reveals much of what we know about the Canaanite god EL.  EL is the king, regarded as ruler among the gods… “To judge from his epithets, El is a creator.  At Ugarit he was called the ‘Builder of Things Built,’ and elsewhere he held the title “Creator of the Earth.”  El has other epithets in the Ugaritic literature.  He is called the “Father of Years,” a titl that recalls his epithet “Eternal” on a Sinaitic inscription.  El is an aged god.  Ugaritic texts refer to his gray beard and speak of his wisdom.  El is called “Compassionate,” “The Bull,” “Beneficent,” and the “Father of Humankind.”  El lives at the source of two rivers amid the fountains of the (world-encompassing) Deep (cf. Gen 1:1)  This is a localization that lies beyond the boundaries of terrestrial space.”

“…In on short text, EL is portrayed drinking himself into a stupor and wallowing in his own excrement and urine.”

“…Philo of Byblos (ca. A>D> 64-141), a Greek historian who collected Phoenician lore, identified EL with Kronos, told of EL’s marriage to Astarte, Rhea, and Dione, and reported that Zeus (Baal) ruled the earth with the permission of EL.  Here there is not hint of declining EL or of conflict between EL and Baal.

At Ugarit, El’s consort with Asherah, a goddess whom the Bible links with Baal …”

It is my contention that the god EL mentioned in the Ugartic, Canaanite text and later being associated as the Greek god Zeus, seen as gods with human frailties were actually Adam, Eve and their sons and daughter.  The general population of that pre-flood time looked on the family of Adam as gods – “sons of god”.

Cain marked by the Creator leading to mankind, outside of the area Adam and his family lived, to believe him to be a god -- they would then have a fear of him making him the god king.  This marking by the Creator would not only save Cain’s life but give him power over the population of men and the reason he is so easily able to begin building projects.  Why else would a population that Cain feared would kill him come so easily under his command and direction?

And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD (YHWH), and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. Genesis 4:16-17

Cain was given a special mark, a mark that set him apart and put fear into the hearts of those living in the land of Nod.  Where was this land of Nod?  Outside of the garden of Eden, on the east side.  There he evidently took a wife and had children.  To build a city, and to name it after one of his children would suggest a work force and a population of considerable size.  We see this system of god kings and building projects the world over, the Egyptian civilization being the most familiar.  It is possible Cain founded the god king system and that it was his sons (son’s of god) that took wives.  This is conjecture, of course, but I believe it to much more believable that the idea of angels taking wives.  My personal belief, however, is that when the son’s of Adam knew the true living God and Creator of all things from the beginning fell in their own wisdom, as did Solomon in his later years, and began to marry (take wives) from among the pagans and in this, again like Solomon, led to false worship and the abandonment of the worship of YHWH. 

Back to the issue about the “sons of God” taking wives.  I have a book in my possession, written by, Dr Henry Morris, God and the Nations, in which he makes a case for the “sons of god” being “demon”.  I did not gain permission to quote directly from the book, so, I will use my own words to tell you what he presents, not as a teaching exclusive to him but to nearly all of the Evangelical community.  What he puts forward is not his own idea but the idea – imagination – of many others.  The Schofield Bible being one example long before Dr Morris wrote on the subject.  The premise is the same.

Dr. Morris states that the (page 33) “sons of god” were angels and that these angels are demons.  He says these demons possessed women and that the babies they produced, through human fathers, were then demon possessed.  This union of demons with women had some kind of nutritional response that led to them having children that became giants.

It is not my objective to discredit Dr Morris, he is a recognized scholar in the debate concerning creation/evolution, and has written many a fine book in his field.  Here, however, he has stepped out, for some reason, in support of this false teaching.  If a mind such as Dr Morris can buy into this kind of theology then we should all take warning and pray, as followers of YaHshua, we do not fall for such doctrines of demons.

If Dr Morris said this was all speculation on his part and was merely putting it out there as a consideration, then that would be different, but that is not the case.  He scoffs at the scholars that have a different conclusion.  For a start it is relatively easy to dispel the idea that the “giants” (nephilim) were the children of a woman-demon union.  The scripture is plain, it states the there were “giants” on the earth at the time this “sons of god” taking wives had been taking place.  Dr Morris, of all people, should be aware of this as a professional geologist and having had access to tons of evidence from the world before he, of all people, should have seen the truth in this statement from the scriptures.  There is evidence that there were at one time giants that were on this earth and some of them were humans, men of stature, heroes, men of renown, great kings and such, but never is it suggested these were the progeny of a union between women and demons.

Another problem, discussed before, is that of demons taking wives.  The messiah indicates this cannot be, that when we receive our new bodies we will be “like the angels of heaven, neither marrying nor giving in marriage”.   Dr Morris’ way around this is to tell us that the word used for “wife” can also mean “woman”.  He tells us that the demons did not take wives but took women, and this by possession.  He jumps so far off the path of what scripture is telling us it is hard for me to take anything he has to say about any subject, seriously. 

Why is any of this important?  It is a warning my friends and a warning given over two thousand years ago.

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 1 Timothy 4:1-2

Is this the explanation for Dr Morris, or Dr Schofield’s position?  I would like to think not but when reading the scripture there is such a thing as false teachings and doctrines of demons and we need to be aware of this, proving to us all the more how we must maintain our vigilance in centering our understanding around the Word of Truth.  It is not entirely on such scholars either.  The laity has a certain responsibility also.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.  2Timothy 4:3-4

Do your ears itch?  Does getting excited over fables and myths cause you to read more about the amazing possibilities than centering on the written Word of our Father?  Do not be a follower of any man for we have but one head and that is the Messiah, YaHshua and over Him our heavenly Father.  Our Savior, and the message of salvation did not come from made up myths, made up stories.  Beware of those that use fictional writing in an effort to convince you of their doctrine.  It is one thing to speculate within the frame work of the Bible – never denying its truth as over any theory or any speculation – turning such speculations into doctrine as though it is the truth. 

“For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.” KJV 2 Peter 1:16

“Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.  I n their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up.” 2 Peter 2:2-3 NIV (writing fiction)

Even back in the days of the Apostle Paul and Peter there were warnings going out to the Church.  We have had over two thousand years of the wolves at work.  There has always been a body of true worshipers not overcome by fables, fiction writing, or doctrines of demons.  Today we seem to be inundated with fictional (fable) writings with the excuse of reaching the larger secular public – as if the written Word of the Living God is not enough!

 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;  And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; KJV  2 Peter 2:3-6

“Through covetousness” is to say, “through greed”, a type of idolatry.  “Feigned words”, is the same as “words made up”, like the fictional writings of the imagination.  Making up things to steal disciples to themselves.  

Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.  Acts  20:30

Sure, they tell you they do this to win converts to Jesus, the false, the bogus name of modern Christianity.  Of course we know that this is not the name of our Savior, YaHshua, so they are off on the wrong foot to start.  That aside we can see the key words is “own-selves”, and “perverse things”.  They do just that and it is easily seen in their fictional books.  This attitude is also leaching over into the Christian music.  Acting like “perverse” un-believers with the excuse of trying to reach the world.  Seeking disciples the worlds way.  Doing what the World does to gain converts?