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A Discussion on the Identity of Yahweh (YHWH)
The following study is not mine -- I am trying to give an opposing opinion but not one I support -- My comments in Brown ToneMy email: servant@yahshuaservant.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ My Note Please read first: This study is missing a vital key that would correct some of the wrong assumptions by the writer concerning the identity of the Messiah. It does, however, contain a good deal of information and a look at how our Savior is related to the Living God and YaHshua’s relation to the “Unknown Deity (God, Theos) whom YaHshua came to reveal (Jon 5:37). Keeping in mind, the main premise of this particular study is to show that YaHWeH of the Old Testament Bible is not YaHshua prior to His earthly birth, this is not my position. It is my attempt at answering the statements put forward by the UNKNOWN author of this article placed openly on the internet. The truth of YaHshua having come from the Father, whom no one knew openly before YaHshua came and revealed Him to us, the Believers. Many, most, still deny this truth of YaHshua having been the YHWH of the Old Testament, He is the Word, the Spokesman for the FATHER (John 1) This study was picked up off of the Internet some months backs. I see this as a useful and interesting study, even a challenge. It is my hope that a study such as this will inspire and excite your own bible study. Remembering to test every spirit by the Word (your Bible) of the Living God (I John 4:1) ----------------------------------------------------------- "Yahshua the Messiah is Not Almighty Yahweh"
From The Everlasting Good News of Yahweh website (http://www.intergate.com/~jcordaro/index.html) Modern day Christians believe that Yahshua the Messiah pre-existed in some form or another. Some say he was Melchizedek, some say he was "the captain of the host of Yahweh" (Josh.5:14), some say he was the archangel Michael, others say he was the "angel of Yahweh". Perhaps the most erroneous view is that Yahshua was the "Yahweh" (LORD) of the Old Testament. This study is written in the hopes that all who read it will finally understand that Yahweh is the Almighty Creator of the heavens and the earth, and that Yahshua the Messiah is His Son, as it is written. My Comments: The writer of this study is correct in questioning the many different views concerning the identity of our Savior. The real question that is being asked is, did our Savior have a preexistence? The answer is, yes ----- (John 6:38)For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. (Joh 3:13) And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven,eventhe Son of man which is in heaven.The last part of the authors statement that "Yahweh is the Almighty Creator ..., and that Yahshua the Messiah is His Son, as it is written", is compelling but wrong -- read what is written: (Col 1:14-16) In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: From these few verses alone it should be easy to see that YaHshua and YHWH are one and the same. Let us continue with this article in pursuit of the logic and truth.
My Comments: Wrong assumption; that YHWH is the Father. This error leads to other wrong views. If YHWH is the Father, whom YaHshua said He came to reveal (Matthew 11:27) thern what the above author states is correct, but if the assumption is wrong then his understadning ot the scriptures he gives is incorrect. (John 6:46) Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.I firmly believe YHWH and YaHshua are one and the same, YHWH (LORD) before His new creation into the FLESH as YaHshua. He, YaHshua came not only to save us from ourselves and to deliver us from the clutches of Satan but to reveal the Father, whom no one knew of. (Mat 11:27) All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, andheto whomsoever the Son will revealhim.I agree with the author concerning the other false identities such as the claim by some that Yahshua had been the angel Gabriel, or any other angel. I also agree with his observation, based on the scriptures he quotes, that YaHshua claimed a status below that of the Father, he, the Messiah, gave the Father credit for all things, making the things he did, YaHshua, possible. The problem, again, is the assumption that YHWH and YaHshua have nothing in common, that YHWH is the Father, this wrong assumption leads to others. YHWH (YaHWeH) is not the Father -- no one knew about the Father until YaHshua revealed Him (John 5:37; John 6:46; Matthew 11:27). (Joh 6:46) Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.The Old Testament records for us the meeting of YHWH with the Israelites, they saw Him, they heard Him (Deut 5:24-28; 18:16) -- this cannot be the Father as YaHshua, our Savior says no one has seen or heard the Father except for Himself, so just who is it the Isrealites saw and heard? It cannot be the Father -- the Father, was not known until Yahshua, the Creator of all things, by the authority of the Father, came and revealed Him (read Matthew 11;27 again and again). The great error is in refusing the Identity of the Father whom the Son came to reveal, but not to the world rather to those called, to "those whom the Son will reveal". "I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life ..." John 5:24 NIV "For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day" John 6:40 NIV "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him and I will raise him up at the last day" John 6:44 "On that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west ..." Zechariah 14:4 So, who is it that is standing on the Mount of Olives? YHWH (LORD), not the Father, whom YaHshua has told us no one has seen or heard, except for himself. YaHshua speaks of the Father as a seprate being, and personality (really more than that) with individual characteristics form whom He, YaHshua, obtains everything. He has told us no one has seen or heard the Father, His Father, and that it is He that reveals Him, so the accounts in the Old Testament about YHWH being seen and heard cannot be the Father. When reading Zecariah and read Zephaniah 3 and ask yourself, Isn't this what our Savior is goint to do, isn't it YaHshua that is going to come back one day and do the things written of YHWH? I think I have given you enough to continue with this article and to make the corrections in the error of logic the autor uses -- seeing through the fog the writer attempts creates. Zechariah 14 is a key chapter bringing many to the understanding that Yahshua is the YaHweh of the Old Testament. He is and was the God of Israel and it will be in that last day our Messiah, YaHshua will stand on the Mount of Olives. John declares YaHshua as the creator of all things as does the letter to the Colossians (1:14:16), and as you have already seen, this article begins on the false premise that Yahshua is not the Creator but YHWH is, and that YHWH is the Father creator. Certainly, YHWH is the Creator, and certainly, John identifies YaHshua as that Creator. The verses I have quoted make it plain -- they are one and the same. If you can accept this truth you will be on the verge of knowing not only the Son but the Father also -- you cannot have one without the other -- it is your obligation as a truth seeker to know whom you worship. While many have recognized the existence of the Father they have not known who YaHshua really is, mistakenly tagging YHWH as the Father which is the same as saying YaHshua is His own Father, of course that is no more crazy that say there is ONE God but in three parts and personalities. In reality it is Yahshua, (falsely called "Jesus" by most), is the one that has become unknown, covered by a false, bogus, name and even his preexistence being denied. Pray about it and believe your Bible not what I say or what others say but what the Word says. Why bother with and examination of this article? To sharpen you against the deceivers of this world. If you can see their arguments and at what length they will go to cover the truth then you will be preparing yourself to have the right answers at the right time. PLEASE, do not confuse my writing with the writing of the unknown author of this article. My writing is in color and smaller font. The main article I am making comment is in black. *** Who is Yahshua's Father? Who does scripture say is the Father? Is.63:16 says, "Doubtless thou art our father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not: thou, O Yahweh, art our father, our redeemer; thy name is from everlasting." Yahweh is the Father. Yet, some might claim that this scripture says Yahweh is the Father of Israel, not of Yahshua. In that case we need to note two other verses. The first is Heb.1:5; "For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?" Who said these things? All would agree that Yahshua's Father said them since He is referring to Yahshua as His Son. Heb.1:5 is a direct quote from Ps.2:7; "I will declare the decree: Yahweh hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee." The first "I" here refers to Yahshua speaking through prophecy in which he declares that Yahweh is his Father! My Comments: Go to Hebrews 1:1-14 and read the full context, not just from the New Testament quote but from the Old Testament as well. While these verses do point to Yahshua, in a prophetic sense, as the Son and the King the context of the original verses apply to the Kings of Israel, especially King David. The writer of Hebrews is not trying to prove to you that YaHshua is not YHWH but rather YaHshua is going to come as King of Kings and that He is claiming the rights, above the angels, to be called the Son. Remember, YHWH and YaHshua are inseparable and the "unknown" Father (John 1:18; 5:37, John 6:46, 1 Timothy 6:16), revealed by YaHshua two thousand years ago, are as one (John 17:11) but are individual in and of themselves as the context of John 17 demonstrates (John 17:6, "manifest", to make known the Father's Name). They are "one" as a son is one with his own father and mother, bone of my bone, flesh of my flesh, so it is with YaHshua and the Father He came to reveal (Matthew 11:27), they are one in the Father's Spirit, His Holy Spirit and when he speaks to Israel, from a burning bush or face to face in the desert it is not the Father, for no one can see the Father and live. Look at verse 9 of Hebrews, are we to say that YaHshua was an angel at one point? That is not what this is all about. Now read verse 2, "...by whom He made the worlds", how is this reconciled with YHWH (LORD of OT) making reference as the Father of Yahsuah? These verses demonstrate His supremacy over all the angels and His singleness with the Father from the beginning. We should take a look at an inspired statement delivered to those brothers and sisters of Colosse, to keep our prespective of YaHshua's relation, before, then and now with the Father: (Col 1:14-19) In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;Looking at John 1:1-5 with Hebrews 1:2 and Hebrews 1:10 and what do we see? Now go to Exodus 33:19 and we see that YHWH, of the Old Testament, not only passed before Moses and spoke to him and allowed Moses to see His "back side". What is not understood is the statement that He, YaHshua came in the Father's name -- They possess the SAME NAME. Look at Hebrews 2:12, "I will declare your name to my brother ...", so what is the Father's name? What is the name of YaHshua (in the Father's name?) from the Creation, from the beginning, as the Creator Himself, the Creator Himself is declaring to those called the Father. Down through the centuries Christians has assumed YHWH, the Creator, is the Father. Read John 1:1-5, again and Hebrews 1:2 -- make no mistake, YHWH is the Creator, as made plain to those of Colossia, as we just read, we are told that everything we see was created by Him and that the Him of the Old Testament, identified among the Israelites became YaHshua. Still in the Father's name -- the ONE Yahshua came to reveal. The Author of the article I am responding to quotes Psalms 2:7 and Hebrews 1:5 and fails to see the light of these scriptures revealed in the Old then the New testaments. Of all the verses I have quoted seemingly contradicting these OT quotes, remember, Hebrews is a quote by the Apostle of the OT. Let's take another approach as the Author (unknown) discounts the idea or argument as YHWH being Father of Isreal, and argument I have used. Let us take it a step further: We have already read several scriptures presenting YaHshua as Creator, not just of things but of everything. Now, let us Simplify, the simplicity found in Yahshua, or Savior: YaHshua is The Creator = the Father of Creation. YHWH is the Creator = the Father of Creation. YHWH is the King of Kings = YaHshua is King of Kings. YHWH is to stand on the Mount of Olives = YaHshua is to stand upon the Mount of Olives. The Father not seen = Yahshua is seen. The Father is unapproachable = YaHshua is approachable -- in fact, it is by and through YaHshua we are able to come to the Father and there is no other way. We can come ot the Father only through YaHshua. Israel was not in the presents of THE Father but of their Father and spiritual Husband YHWH, later to deny Him as their God and Father and crucify Him ending the marriage agreement, the convenant with Israel. YaHshua then makes way the door though which the world can come to Him as Savior and Father of the righteous and those He ahs made righteous through His blood. "Now this is eternal life: that they may know you (the Father), the only true God, and YaHshua the Christ, whom you have sent" ..... "And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began" John 17:3, 5 NIV "I am coming to you Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name -- the name you gave me -- so that they may be one as we are one. John 17:11 NIV Remember, YaHshua says that if you have seen Him you have seen the Father. "The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of His being" Hebrews 1:3 NIV. "He (YaHshua) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him (YaHshua) all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible ..." Colossians 1:15-20 NIV Not all doctrine can be set upon rhetorical questions that are made to express an idea. YaHshua was never and angel and the author of Hebrews is making that point. Are we then to assume that Yahshua is His own Father, if YHWH be YaHshua? Yes, we can, as it is made ever so plain that you cannot have one without the other. YHWH, by the unseen Fathers authority, came to this earth by the power of the Holy Spirit from the Father and from Himself. Once on earth He became "flesh and blood" -- born of flesh as we. Now He made Himself a new creation, a first fruits of many to come. It was also necessary for YHWH to die in order to dissolve the marriage contract with Israel, to create, what we know as the New Testament (Hebrews 9:15-16). Someone had to die in order to make the New Testament and break the Old Testament and the Creator did it for all of us, that by His shedding of His own blood we might gain Life. He is now raised a superior being over any other, whether of flesh or created spirit and has returned to the Father a new creation as Son of the Most High. We also previously seen that Yahshua said, "My Father is greater than I." In reality he was also saying, "Yahweh is greater than I", thereby teaching us that he is not Yahweh. Anyone who believes Yahshua is Yahweh must also believe Yahshua is the Heavenly Father. That is even more absurd and more difficult to prove in the light of scripture. My Comments: Oops, this is putting words in Yahsua's mouth. Yahshua did say the "Father" is greater than Himself. YaHshua also said He came in The Father's name and He, YaHshua, prayed His disciples would be protected in the power of His Father's name, the name given Him so that all may be one just ass He is One with the Father. What we have is YHWH, God of the Old Testament, existing along side the INVISIBLE Father through whom all power originates. YHWH is identified as the Creator of all things, as is YaHshua also identified, making them one and the same. We see that YaHshua came in the name given Him by the Father, and that that name also belongings to the Father (this may be where the confusion comes). Can you see how this understanding blows the reasoning of this article apart? Certainly there will be scripture you can go to that say YHWH is the Father, but that name, in the Old Testament (Contract) also belonged to the one to come that would usher in the New Testament. God the Father has never died, it would be impossible for the Father to die, if that were to happen everything would collapse, all things would cease. It cannot be denied that the God of Israel came in the flesh and died, not only for our sins, but to put an end to the Old Covenant just as we are told in --- well let's quote it: "For this reason (the) Christ is the Mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance -- now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant. In the case of a will (covenant, testament), it is necessary to prove the death of the one who made it because a will is in force only when someone has died (speaking of activating the New Covenant); it never takes effect while the one who made it is living This is why even the first covenant (Old Testament) was not put into effect without blood." Hebrews 9:15-18 YaHshua died, God of Israel and Old Covenant, the MAKER of that Covenant had to die, this could not be the Father, the sustainer of all things, but it was YHWH. What does YHWH and YaHshua have in common? They both died on the cross, they are, of course, one and the same. Remeber, this understanding comes to us from the same letter to the Hebrews, same author quoting from the OT in the first chapter. Usually a writer will make an opening statement and continue on building and clarifying the pwoint for a better understadning, and there have it, read it again. Certainly we all know the Father of YaHshua could not die, ever, but YaHshua did die and He defeated corruption by the Power of His Father, whom raise Him from the grave. The Christ was in a covenant relationship with Israel and by the Law died to break that Covenant and He did it for us. The rest of that chapter goes on to make it plain that Moses used the blood of calves to begin the Old Covenant. "... a will is in force only when someone has died", can you see it -- Covenants were originally established, made firm, confirmed, by blood. This proved the seriousness of making a covenant, especially with the Creator. The blood of our Savior, YaHshua, more precious than any other being thus brings in the New Covenant by His death, "...that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance". Read John 1:1-3 again and you decide whom you think it is that was hung on the cross, whose blood was shed for us. "In the Beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was the God in the Beginning. Through Him all things were made; without Him nothing was made that has been made. In Him was life, and that life was the light of men." NIV (John 1:1-4) He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him ... (Col 1:15-19) NIVRemember the first paragraph of this article? The Author states that YaHweh is the Creator and Yashua is the Son. He is saying, essentially, that YaHshua is not the Creator? He denies Yahshua as God confusing YaHshua's origins and confusing His oneness with the Father. In this the writer of this article I am commenting on, is "denying YHWH (Yahweh) as having come in the flesh (1 John 4:2-3). YaHshua is Creator God, YHWH is Creator God. YaHshua came to reveal the Father and from John 1:1-3 we have confirmation YaHshua is the Creator of all thing and is the WORD and was the WORD by which all things were and are created. When the Creator Father spoke, the WORD preformed by command to bring things into existence. In the Greek the WORD comes from LOGOS to be a spokesman (Heb 1:2 "In these last days has spoken to us by His Son"). YaHshua, YHWH, speak for the Father, they are the Word and the Creators and are one and the same, YaHshua being made better than other spirit beings (angels). Who is the Elohim of Israel? Who does scripture say is the Elohim (God) of Israel? Is. 45:3 says, "And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, Yahweh, which call thee by thy name, am the Elohim of Israel." Yahweh is the Elohim of Israel. Since we already learned that Yahshua is not Yahweh, Yahshua cannot be the Elohim of Israel. This is confirmed in Acts 3:13, "The Elohim of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the Elohim of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Yahshua;..." The Elohim of Jacob (Jacob being Israel) glorified His Son. MY Comments: When one checks into the Hebrew concerning name's an interesting thing occurs -- My Brother Ron, a Hebrew language buff, pointed this out and it should clear up some misunderstandings concerning the point the writer of this article raises -- First, I think I have already demonstrated that the Creator, identified as YHWH and Yahshua, possess the same commonality in names and there is something that demonstrates this but has been hidden by the translators of your bible. My brother went to the accepted authority on the scriptures, The Jewish Bible -- the "Tanakh of the Holy Scriptures", (The New JPS Translation According to the Traditional Hebrew Test) Turning to -- Isaiah 26:4 "Trust in the LORD for ever and ever, For in Yah the LORD you have an everlasting Rock ...," JPS Isaiah 12:2 "Behold the God who gives me triumph! I am confident, unafraid; For Yah the LORD is my strength and might, And He has been my deliverance." JPS The Jewish scholars of the JPS have chosen to follow the traditions of those before them and render the name YHWH as "LORD" in capital letters, just as the King James Version does and virtually all other modern translations. Knowing this, do you see the significance of this translation, from a source no one doubts, commissioned for the protection of the scriptures? What is being written here is, YaH, YaHWeH -- it is not "YaH the LORD" but YaH YHWH. If you don't see it, don't want to see it, refuse to see it, then I cannot reveal it. There is much more that could be written concerning this but I leave it to you to do a little research. As for me, I'm waiting on my Brother to feed me more, but for now this should be the "nail" fastening down the Messiah's origin. Have another look at the last part of Isaiah 26:4 and we see, "...an everlasting Rock", and ask yourself, who is this "Rock". Yes, of course, the Rock of our Salavation, songs are written, it is YaHshua. Why didn't the Jewish scholars comptete the translation by transliterating the complete two part Name? Because they have tied them selves to not using His Name as it is too holy, to sacred. In this they deny their responsibility in making their God's Name great among the nations. This duty was taken form them and given to the Gentile Church, and what has happened? Right, the Christians, over the centuries, have not only abandoned the same duty but are preaching a false messiah in a fals name. Never fear as our God, YaHshua and our Heavenly Father will one day do what men have failed to do. (Isa 52:6) Therefore my people will know my name; therefore in that day they will know that it is I who foretold it. Yes, it is I."*** It is impossible to harmonize the two Yahweh doctrine with verses that teach there is only one Yahweh. Consider Nehemiah's prayer;"Thou, even thou, art Yahweh alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee." Neh 9:6 Ps 83:18 says; "That men may know that thou, whose name alone is Yahweh, art the most high over all the earth." Is 45:6 says; "That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am Yahweh, and there is none else." Zech 14:9 reads; "And Yahweh shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Yahweh, and his name one." A second God cannot be named "Yahweh." Is.42:1 teaches us that Yahshua is Yahweh's servant. "Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles." And again in Is.49:6, "And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth." MY Comments: Without understanding the singleness of the Father and the Son, in rejecting the teaching that no one knew the Father prior to YaHshua's revelation the light of the scriptures concerning YHWH and the Yahshua connection cannot be seen. I understand full well the argument and the reasoning but it ultimately denies the the Son's preexistence and it denies our Savior as the Creator and it denies the place of YaHshua as the Word with the Father from the beginning, even before the angels. (John 8:58; 17:54; 3:13; 6:46; 8:14; 16:28; 1:14) (1Corinthians 10:1) For I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers, that our forefathers were all under the cloud and that they all passed through the sea. They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. They all ate the same spiritual food and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ. NIVRead also Isaiah 30:29, and Genesis 49:24 and it will be revealed that the Rock of Israel, the one Paul speaks of to the Corinthians is Yahshua, previously known as YaHweh (YHWH). *** Who is the Prophet like unto Moses? In Acts 3:22,23 Peter quotes from Deut.18:15,19 proving that Yahshua is the "prophet like unto Moses." Placing the name "Yahshua" in brackets clearly shows him not to be Yahweh. "Yahweh thy Elohim will raise up unto thee a Prophet [Yahshua] from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him [Yahshua] ye shall hearken.. . .I [Yahweh] will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my [Yahweh's] words in his [Yahshua's] mouth; and he [Yahshua] shall speak unto them all that I [Yahweh] shall command him [Yahshua]. . . . And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my [Yahweh's] words which he [Yahshua] shall speak in my [Yahweh's] name, I [Yahweh] will require it of him." Jn.12:49 is a direct fulfillment of Deut.18:18; "For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak." My Comments: Read also John 5:37 (again). Read, "Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and YaHshua The Christ whom you have sent" John 17:3. Again, turning to Zechariah 14:9 "YHWH will be king over the whole earth. On that day there will be one YHWH, and his name the only name". Are we then to assume that all of the references to YHWH in the Old Testament are not references to our Messiah? Certainly not as we can see from the prophetic statements of Zechariah, concerning the coming of our LORD, YHWH and YaHshua are one and the same. Listen, today we must accept Yahshua as our Savior and in this we need to see the Father for Yahshua makes it possible for us to approach Him, but we need to understand one more thing, YaHshua is in the Father's Name but He, YaHshua is going to have and reveal His own personal Name in the coming future -- He is to have a New Name Once He was known as YHWH (YaHweh), to day as YaHshua but in the future He is to have a new name. (Rev 3:12) Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon himmy new name. NIV Hear, again, what the risen YaHshua has to say:"...I will write on him the name of my God (Father) and the name of the city of my God (Father), the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God (Father); and I will also write on him MY NEW NAME. He who has an ear, let him hear what the SPIRIT says to the churches" Revelation 3:12 His "new name"? Hey, I didn't write it, I merely quoted what it says, what He said. The Father and the Son are Spirit and above all they are the ultimate in Holiness -- they are Holy and as Spirit are the Holy Spirit. I'll say it again, "Yes, they are the Holy Spirit". The Son was once YHWH, then becoming YaHshua, and will ultimately take on "new name", a New Identity, but we see in Zechariah's prophetic statement that all of the inhabitants of the earth are going to recognize YHWH as the one God. YaHshua is coming back in the Name of YHWH and in the full power and presence of the Holy Spirit that he shares with the Father. In the flesh, first raised from the dead, he is known to us as YaHshua, and this name has significance, especially to the Jews, in its meaning pointing to the Savior. His new name -- His name change will signify his new office as King of Kings. Please consider the following verses pretaining ot YHWH and see if it applies to YaHshua and if you can answer yes then turn to Zechariah 14 and read it again, then reread the scriptures I quoted from John and Colossians: (Zec 12:8-10) In that day shall the LORD (YHWH) defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD (YHWH) before them. And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they (Israelites, Jews) shall look upon me whom they have pierced (YHWH - YaHshua), and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth forhis only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. NIVI have a few more comments toward the bottom of this article but at this point I think it is becoming so redundant as if running in a squirl cage. If by now, after considering my presentation of comments on this issue you are still in doubt or just think I have not made my case and the Unknown Author of this long article is correct then none of this matters. For those of you seeing what I have presented, from the Bible, in support of YHWH becoming YaHshua in the flesh then you need no further comments and will find your own way through the remainder of this article. Peace, in His Name, your servant Dan. Please see my article titled, "IAM that I am YaM", for a new, revealed, look at the God of Israel's identity. *** *** *** *** ***Let's treat Is.53:6, 10 ,12 similarly; "All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and Yahweh hath laid on him [Yahshua] the iniquity of us all. . . Yet it pleased Yahweh to bruise him [Yahshua]; he [Yahweh] hath put him [Yahshua] to grief: when thou [Yahweh] shalt make his [Yahshua's] soul an offering for sin, he [Yahshua] shall see his seed, he [Yahshua] shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of Yahweh shall prosper in his [Yahshua's] hand." Zech.12:10 is often misunderstood due to an apparent error in the text. It reads, "And I [Yahweh] will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn." The word "me" obviously does not harmonize with the pronouns "him" and "his" that follow. The same verse is quoted in Jn.19:37; "And again another scripture saith, They shall look on him whom they pierced." John gives us the correct understanding of this verse. Another possible error occurs in Acts 20:28; "Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Spirit hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood (KJV)." The great majority of Greek MSS have kurios (Lord) here instead of theos (God). In that case, Lord would refer to Yahshua whose blood was shed. Even if we were to accept the KJV rendering, it would have to be understood in the sense that parents often refer to their children as their "own flesh and blood." In that sense the blood of Yahshua was the "blood of Yahweh's own." YAHWEH OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS Jer.23:6 is often used to prove Yahshua is Yahweh. "In his [Yahshua's] days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his [ Yahshua's] name whereby he [Yahshua] shall be called, YAHWEH OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS." If this verse teaches that Yahshua is Yahweh because he is called "Yahweh Our Righteousness, then Jer.33:16 teaches that Jerusalem is also Yahweh. It reads, "In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, Yahweh our righteousness." The translators did not use the same capitalization because they undoubtedly feared that it would suggest Jerusalem is Yahweh. Two Creators? Gen.1:26 is often used to show Yahshua's hand in Creation. It reads, "And Elohim said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." They say the Father is talking to the Son in this verse based on the pronouns used. Notice, however, that verse 27 says, "So Elohim created man in his own image, . . ." Why isn't the phrase "in their own image" used? Again, in Gen.11:7,8, "us" is used and yet Yahweh alone scattered them abroad. According to Job 38:4-7, "the sons of Elohim shouted for joy" when Yahweh created the earth. This doubtless refers to the angels who were also present at the creation of man. Yahweh could be speaking to them, in Gen.1:26, using the plural of majesty. An example of this is found in Ezr. 4:18; "The letter which ye sent unto us hath been plainly read before me." In this case, a letter was written strictly to King Artaxerxes and no one else (vs. 11). Yet the King speaks as though it was written to others as well. Another example would be the Queen of England saying, "We, the Queen of England, . . ." It can also be understood in the sense of someone saying, "Let us drive to the lake for a picnic," and yet, only the speaker does the driving. To believe Yahweh is talking to Yahshua is an assumption. It is reading into the text something that it does not say. Yahweh is One Concerning the "Shema" (Deut.6:4) it reads, "Hear, O Israel: Yahweh our Mighty One is one Yahweh:" or "Yahweh is one." It is believed by many that the word "echad," translated "one," means "a united one" or a "compound unity," not singularity. The scriptures prove this belief to be false. Note Nu.7:13-82 where "echad" is translated "one" 84 times and each time it means one as in the number one, singularity. Consider also Gen.2:1 - one rib and Dan.9:27 - one week. Elohim - Plural or singular? The word "Elohim," translated "God," is often attacked as well. It is believed that it denotes a plurality or a god consisting of more than one being or more than one manifestation of a being. This, too, is a false concept based on the philosophy of men. Elohim is used in the Bible with a plural sense when it refers to several deities and in a singular sense when it refers to a singular deity. Its plural sense can be seen in Ex.12:12, "For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods (elohim) of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am Yahweh." Its singular sense can be seen in 1 Sam.5:7, ". . . and upon Dagon our god (elohim)" and 2 Kgs.1:2, ". . . Go, enquire of Baal-zebub the god (elohim) of Ekron whether I shall recover of this disease." Are we to believe that Dagon and Baal-zebub are also plural beings who can "incarnate" themselves as Yahweh "supposedly" did? The Image of Yahweh What about Jn.14:9? "Yahshua saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?" Is Yahshua declaring that he is Father Yahweh? Heb.1:3 and Col.1:15 both state that Yahshua is the "image" of Yahweh. An image is something that resembles something else. Yahshua resembles Yahweh in that their characters are almost identical. "Not that any man has seen the Father" (Jn. 6:46) bodily, but we have seen His character through His Son. Man (specifically Adam) was made in the "image of Elohim" (Gen 1:26,27; 5:3; 9:6). Messiah Yahshua is also in the "image of Elohim" (2 Co 4:4; Col 1:15). "Elohim" in these verses, when understood in the context of pure monotheism, is a reference to Yahweh the Creator. Adam's inner man resembled Elohim, but he himself is not Elohim. Yahshua's inner man resembles Yahweh, but he himself is not Elohim. Col 3:10 tells us that after a person's conversion, after he has put on the new man, he is "renewed in knowledge after the image of Him [Yahweh] that created him." Rom 8:29, 30 echoes this in that those that have been justified (through conversion unto Messiah) have been predestined to be "conformed to the image of His [Yahweh's] Son." Since the Son is in the image of Elohim, to be conformed to the image of the Son is to be conformed to the image of Elohim or Yahweh the Creator. 2 Co 3:18 says that we "are changed into the same image" as the Master. This also happens upon conversion. From this info, I deduce the following; Adam was made in the image of Yahweh. Upon his fall, that image was lost. It can only be restored through conversion unto the Master Yahshua. Yahshua, being sinless, never lost the image of Yahweh. The image of Yahweh has nothing to do with the physical appearance as far as the above references are concerned. It has to do with the inner man. Look at Ps 73:20. Yahweh despises the image of the wicked. Why? Because they have put off Yahweh's image through sin and have created their own new image. The same is true of all men for all have sinned. We all have fallen away from the image of Yahweh and need to have that image restored through the indwelling Spirit of Messiah. When Yahweh looks upon a believer, He sees the righteousness of His Son clothing us. He also sees the image of His Son clothing us. Our physical appearance has not changed, but our inner man has. Yahshua is from everlasting? What about Mic.5:2; "But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting." This is undoubtedly a Messianic prophecy. The question is, what does "goings forth" mean? Does it mean Yahshua has existed as long as Yahweh? Some say yes thereby giving more weight to their argument that Yahshua is Yahweh. According to Strong's Concordance, "Goings forth" comes from one Hebrew word, "mowtsaah". It means, "a family descent." Since Yahweh is Yahshua's Father, Yahshua's family descent would go back as far as Yahweh's existence. Since Yahweh has always existed, Yahshua's family descent or goings forth must be from everlasting. The New English Bible, the Phillips translation, and Todays English Bible render it similarly. Yahshua himself is not from everlasting. His family descent, or his family tree, is. There are those who believe that Yahshua was not only Yahweh, but Melchizedek as well. They site Heb.7:4 to prove this. In Gen.14:18 we read that Melchizedek, king of Salem, "was the priest of the most high God." The "most high God" is shown to be Yahweh three verses later; "...I have lift up mine hand unto Yahweh, the most high God, the possessor of heaven and earth." Therefore, Melchizedek is the priest of Yahweh, not Yahweh Himself. If Yahshua is Melchizedek, he cannot be Yahweh. If Yahshua is Yahweh, he cannot be Melchizedek. The fact is, Yahshua is neither one of these beings. He is Yahweh's Son and Yahweh made him a priest "after the order of Melchizedek" (Ps.110:4, Heb. 7:21). Receiving Worship and Forgiving Sins Many people believe that only Almighty Yahweh can forgive sins and receive worship. Since Yahshua did both they believe he must be the Almighty. Yahshua indeed is worthy of our worship and honor, but only as Yahweh's representative, not as Yahweh Himself. Yahweh commanded even the angels of heaven to worship Yahshua (Heb.1:6). Rev.5:12 ,13 show both Yahweh and the Lamb [Yahshua] receiving worship. Eventually, those believers comprising the Philadelphia assembly will receive worship as well (Rev. 3:9). The worship they receive however, is not directed at them as though they were Yahweh. While we are on the subject of sin, many believe Yahshua was the one true "God" because "only the death of God could atone for man's sins. The death of a man wouldn't suffice." This is another example of the philosophy of men contrary to scripture. Heb.9:22 says, "And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission (of sins)." One requirement was shed blood. The other requirement was that the sacrifice had to be "without blemish" which, regarding Messiah, meant sinless. Yahweh Almighty did not have to die. Only the blood of a sinless man was required. Yahshua was that only sinless man (1 Jn.3:5). The Attributes of Yahweh The terms "omniscient" (all knowing), and "omnipotent" (all powerful) are often applied to Yahshua to prove he is the Almighty. In Jn.5:30 Yahshua said, "I can of mine own self do nothing" therefore, he cannot be omnipotent as Yahweh is. Mt. 24:36 proves Yahshua is not omniscient; "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but my Father." In order to explain such verses "Oneness" proponents must turn Yahshua into the "God-Man." This unscriptural idea claims that Yahshua's divine half is omniscient and omnipotent but that he suppressed his powers during his life in the flesh. Nowhere in scripture is the Messiah called a God-Man or shown to have two such natures at the same time. He is repeatedly referred to as a man in such verses as 1 Tim.2:5. When he is called "God" it is in the sense of a mighty one among his people as was shown earlier. This is not to say that Yahshua was a mere man. Scripture is clear that Yahshua's birth was a miracle in that he was not made from the seed or sperm of man. He is Yahweh's only begotten Son; the only being ever to be "Fathered" by Yahweh. Titles in Common Should we refer to Yahshua as the Almighty, a title only applied to Yahweh? Nowhere in scripture is this ever the case. One scripture that seemingly supports such an application is Rev. 1:8; "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith [the Lord]*, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." (KJV). *The Greek has "kurios o theos" ("the Lord the God" or "Yahweh Elohim"). The phrase "Lord God" is never used of Yahshua in the New Testament. Aside from that, John is giving a greeting starting in verse four and ending in verse seven. Verse four is a greeting from the Father "which is, and which was, and which is to come." Verse five is a greeting from Yahshua the Messiah. Verse eight is spoken by the Father which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." Scripture makes a clear distinction between the Almighty and Yahshua in Rev.21:22; "And I saw no temple therein: for Yahweh Elohim Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it." Yahshua is not Yahweh Almighty. Is.9:6 reads, "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Is this prophecy declaring Yahshua the Messiah to be the Heavenly Father? There are at least 27 names in the Bible with the same Hebrew construction as in this verse. Each one means the "father of (something)." For example, Abishua means "father of plenty." Instead of translating the phrase in Is.9:6 as "Father of eternity," the KJV reversed the sequence making the true meaning harder to discern. Several newer versions correct this mistake such as The Emphasized Bible, The Bible in Basic English, The New American Bible, The Holy Bible; A Translation From the Latin Vulgate in the Light of the Hebrew and Greek Originals, and The New English Bible, just to name a few. Yahshua is the Father of Eternity because eternal life comes to us through him. And so it is written in Heb.5:9, "And being made perfect, he became the author (or father) of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;" I AM "Before Abraham was, I am." These words, spoken by our Savior in Jn.8:58, have led to much controversy and confusion. Some use this verse to prove the Messiah's pre-existence. Others use it to prove the trinity doctrine. And then there are those who use it to prove Yahshua is the great "I AM" of Ex.3:14. The phrase "I am" is "ego eimi" in Greek. Since the Greek New Testament records Yahshua using "ego eimi" many times, Christian theologians term these sayings, "The I Am's of Jesus." It is believed that each of these occurrences implies Yahshua's identity as the "I AM" of Ex.3:14. Can this be true? Can our Savior, the Son of Yahweh, actually be the "I AM"? My Comment: See my article on the "IAM that I am YAM" and you will see another view on a subject not understood by anyone by anyone. I do believe I have stumbled onto a truth clearing up the confusion of this double meaning our Creator gave Moses concerning His identity. *** In the Greek Septuagint (LXX), Ex 3:14 reads,
In Septuagint English it reads, "And God spoke to Moses, saying, I am THE BEING; and he said, Thus shall ye say to the children of Israel, THE BEING has sent me to you." In KJV English it reads, "And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you." In John 8:58, "I am" is " If Yahshua truly wanted to tell the Jews he was the great "I am" of Ex 3:14, he would have said, "Before Abraham was I am the Being" or "I am the Existing One". It is believed that Jn.8:59 further supports the position that Yahshua is the "I AM." Why else would the Jews try to stone him? He obviously blasphemed in the eyes of the Jews, a stoneable offense. Or did he? Is the mere utterance of "ego eimi" a blasphemy? Does the use of "ego eimi" automatically identify the speaker as Yahweh, the I AM? Yahshua was telling them that Abraham will be one of those people who will be granted eternal life, but before that takes place, Yahshua will receive that same eternal life. This statement of fact must be since Yahshua is to have the preeminence in all things. He must be the firstborn from the dead, the first to receive eternal life.
Yahshua was not declaring that he is the great "I AM" of Ex.3:14. Yahshua was not declaring himself to be Yahweh. And Yahshua was not declaring his pre-existence. He is the Son of Yahweh and the Son of the great "I Am."
The Word was God? In Jn.1:1-3 we read, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made" (KJV). As mentioned previously, it is not wrong to address Yahshua as god or elohim as long as we don't address him as the "one true Elohim." According to the common understanding of verse 1, there are two beings, the Word and God, Yahshua and Yahweh. Therefore, the phrase "the Word was God" would lead one to believe that Yahshua (the Word) was Yahweh (God). However, if we know that Yahweh called Yahshua "God" or "elohim" in Heb.1:9 and Ps.45:7, there is no problem with the phrase "the Word was God." Yahshua is obviously an elohim in Hebrew or a god in English. This, of course, is based on the common understanding of the "Word" being Yahshua. That, however, is not what John intended when he wrote these verses. Nor did John intend to teach us that the Son preexisted "with" God from the very beginning of creation. De 32:39 says, "See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand." Yahweh the Father is speaking here. He is saying there is no other "elohim" or no other God with Him. John 1:1 says, " . . .and the Word was WITH God, and the Word was God." If the "Word" is the Son and the Son was WITH God and was God, how does that harmonize with the above verse? In De 32:39, since Yahweh was speaking, then there was no other God with Him, not even the Son. Since Yahshua is called "The Word of God" in Rev.19:13, the translators of the KJV assumed the "Word" of Jn.1:1 was also Yahshua and therefore, capitalized the word "word" and used the pronoun "him" in reference to the "word." The Greek for "Word" is "logos." It appears in the text written with a small letter l. Logos means "the spoken word" or "something said (including the thought)." In that sense the word is an "it," not a person but a thing. The great English translator William Tyndale renders it that way in his 1525 version as does the Matthew's Bible of 1537, the Great Bible of 1539, the Geneva Bible of 1560, and the Bishop's Bible of 1568. (Click here for more info.) Verse 3 should read, "All things were made through it; and without it was not anything made that was made." In other words, Yahweh spoke creation into existence. This understanding agrees perfectly with passages such as Gen.1:3,6,9,11,14, 20, and 24 all of which begin, "And Elohim said." Yahweh spoke and it was done. Ps.33:6,9 says, "By the word of Yahweh were the heavens made; and all the host by the breath of his mouth. . . For He spoke and it was; He commanded, and it stood fast." Not only did Yahweh speak creation into existence, but He also spoke His Son Yahshua into existence; "And the word (Yahweh's spoken word) was made flesh" (Jn.1:14). Yahshua did not become the "Word of Yahweh" until his birth as a flesh and blood male child. Who is the Creator? Getting back to the issue of creation, many believe Yahshua created all things. A thorough study of the Old Testament scriptures shows Yahweh to be the Creator and that He acted alone to accomplish this. Note Is.44:24; "Thus saith Yahweh, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am Yahweh that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;" Where is Yahshua in this verse? It has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Yahshua is not Yahweh, therefore, Yahshua did not have a hand in creation. This is confirmed in Job 9:8; "Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea." Consider also Prov.30:4; "Who hath ascended up into heaven? who hath gathered the wind in His fists? Who hath bound the waters in a garment? Who hath established all the ends of the earth? What is His name, and what is His son's name, if thou canst tell?" This verse teaches us that the Creator, whoever He is, has a Son. Does Yahshua have a son? No. Father Yahweh is the Creator and He has a Son who is not given credit for creation in this verse. Know the Scriptures There has been a very sharp attack centered on using Old Testament quotes found in the New Testament that are applied to both Yahweh and Yahshua to prove the two are one and the same. It is important to fully understand these verses correctly.
"Thus saith Yahweh, In this thou shalt know that I am Yahweh: behold, I will smite with the rod that is in mine hand upon the waters which are in the river, and they shall be turned to blood. And the fish that is in the river shall die, and the river shall stink; and the Egyptians shall lothe to drink of the water of the river. And Yahweh spake unto Moses, Say unto Aaron, Take thy rod, and stretch out thine hand upon the waters of Egypt, upon their streams, upon their rivers, and upon their ponds, and upon all their pools of water, that they may become blood; and that there may be blood throughout all the land of Egypt, both in vessels of wood, and in vessels of stone. And Moses and Aaron did so, as Yahweh commanded; and he lifted up the rod, and smote the waters that were in the river, in the sight of Pharaoh, and in the sight of his servants; and all the waters that were in the river were turned to blood." Yahweh says He Himself will smite the waters with the rod in His own hand. Yet, it was Aaron that held the rod (Ex.7:19,20). Are we to believe that Aaron is also Yahweh? Neither should we believe that Yahshua is Yahweh in this verse. Consider Zech 14:4 in this light as well. "And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south." Most people believe "his feet" refers to Yahweh's feet. Yet, they realize that it is Yahshua who is returning to set up the Kingdom on earth. So they jump to the erroneous conclusion that Yahshua is Yahweh. As Messiah's feet land on the Mount of Olives, Yahweh the Father will cause it to cleave in two. Yet, as Yahweh's representative, Yahshua's feet are spoken of as Yahweh's feet just as Aaron's hand is spoken of as Yahweh's hand. Yahshua is not the only one "coming" on judgment day. Yahweh will come as well, but not in the physical sense that Yahshua will. Isa 40:10 - "Behold, the Sovereign Yahweh will come with strong hand, and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him." The phrase "his arm" is a reference to Messiah (Jn 12:38), but "the Sovereign Yahweh" is a reference to the Father. Isa 66:15 - "For, behold, Yahweh will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire." This is the language of 2 Peter 3:10-13 when it talks about "the Day of Yahweh." Yahweh the Father will come bringing judgment upon the world. He will do so through His Son Yahshua and the saints which will be riding on the "chariots" of Yahweh the Father. "All the saints" of Zech 14:5 would include Yahshua. Ex.7:17 is also the key to understanding Zec.11:13 which reads, "And Yahweh said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of Yahweh." Since Yahshua was priced at 30 pieces of silver, and since Yahweh here says, "I was prised at of them," some conclude that Yahshua is also called Yahweh. Using that same logic, who cast the silver down? Mt.27:5 says of Judas, "And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple..." Are we to believe that Judas is also called Yahweh? The next attack on Scripture comes in 1 Pe.3:14,15, "But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled; But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:" (KJV) Several commentaries and Greek manuscripts read "Christ" instead of "God" in these verses. They imply it should read, "But sanctify Yahweh who is Christ." According to the Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures, there are 6 Mss. that have "Christos" or "Messiah" in the text and 8 MSS. that do not. Since the Hebrew Text clearly says, "Yahweh of hosts" (Is.8:13), the Greek would say either theos or kurios, not Christos. The Greek text was obviously tampered with by those who tried to prove that Yahshua was the YHWH of the Old Testament. No Man Has Seen God? This study would not be complete without addressing the issue concerning the following statements; (Jn.5:37), "And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape." My Comments: Here we have the writer of this article substituting the name, Yahweh, of the term "God". It is the context that demonstrates to us the God being spoken of. In most case the term "God" could more easily be understood as "The Father", and we see this example throughout the New Testament, John 6:27; 1 Corinthians 8:6; Galatians 1:1; Ephesians 6:23; 1 Thessalonians 1:1; Jude 1:1, and more but this should serve to demonstrate a simple fact. If you assume that YaHweh is the Father then why don't we find that in the New testament testimony. Think about it, not one of the Apostles declared "God the Father" as God of Israel, but in every case where "God the Father" is mentioned it is in relation to the Messiah, YaHshua. Here are a few more verses where "God the Father" is mentioned and not hint that He is YHWH, the God Israel followed out of Egypt, that Rock of Israel, already demonstrated to be YaHshua, the Rock Himself. Check these verses out -- 2 Timothy 1:2; Titus 1:4; 1 Peter 1:2; 2 Peter 1:17; 2 John 1:3; 2 John 1:3 This is what the scriptures really say, without the incorrect insertion made by the writer of this article: 1 John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus (YaHshua) is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God (the Father). And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him. From the verses previously listed we know this to be "God the Father". Yahweh of the Old Testament is the Creator, and we are told plainly that Yahshua is and was the Creator of all things, that He was and is with God the Father. Is John 1:1-8 so difficult to understand? When the words were spoken, "Let us make man in our image" (Genesis 1:26) it was the Father and the Son identified in the name YHWH. Yahshua tells us that the Father was not recognized and that no one had ever seen Him or Heard Him (John 5-6). So, who is it that denies YHWH has come in the flesh? It was not the Father that came born of woman, it was YHWH, born in the flesh as Yahshua? Yes, it is a battle over names, and identities. Which Savior is your Savior. Just what is the name of the Father, can you tell? What is the name of the Son, do you know? Appendix A There are several passages in which Yahweh is spoken of as "God" and yet, they are mistakenly applied to Yahshua. The first is Jude 1:24,25. It reads, "Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, to the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen." Who is it that is able to keep us from falling? Jn.10:29 and Rom.16:25-27 teach us that it is the Father (Yahweh) who keeps us. He is "God only wise" or "the only wise God." My Comment: Here we see a classic denial -- Like, the scripture does not really mean what it says. This writer might as well throw out all of the Apostle John's writing. "The only wise God our Savior" I think stands. *** My Comment: The assumption is again based on a false understanding, that YHWH is "God the Father", so verses like those given above have to be amended (without authority) to say what the writer of this article wants it, needs it, to say. John 1:1-4 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: With this understanding, even as previously stated and presented, now read the scriptures the writer of this article gives. All prophecy students, to the person, acknowledge the individual that is going to stand on the Mount of Olives, "in that day", is going to be the returned Christ, YaHshua. Zechariah 14 plainly says it is YHWH that stands on the Mount of Olives in that day. The book of Revelation make it plain that "God the Father" does not come to this Earth until after the thousand years are finished. Read Revelation 21, the New Heaven, the New Jerusalem, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them". Following after chapter 20 and the "Great White Thrown Judgment" and the Devil being thrown into the "lake of fire" it is ever so plain that God the Father is not on earth until after those events, after the thousand years are finished. So, it cannot be God the Father that is standing on the Mount of Olives at the return of YaHshua. YHWH and Yahshua are on and the same. In both of these names the Father can be seen, by definition. The Father and the Son have a oneness that they are inviting us into. HalleluYaH! *** My Comment: Again the arguements the writer of this article presents takes a certain twisting of the scriptures to make verses, like the ones he gives above, dissappear. Do these verses really say what they say? Of course they do, but not to this writer of this article. At least in the examples I gave in understanding some of the difficult verses that seemed to support his position I was able to use the context of what the Apostle or Apostles were teaching and it was not that YHWH is the Father, the Father of Israel, yes, the Father of Creation, yes, but not the Father of Himself -- no, He, YaHshua reveals the Father. The writer of this article, however, must resort to denying the word. "Looking for that blessed hope, and glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior, YaHshua the Messiah". He needs to read John 1:1 again. Your comments are appreciated - email: servant@yahshuaservant.com MY HOME Page |